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Francis Chan – Friday evening NYWC 2009

Sunday, 22 November, 2009
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these are the notes from francis chan’s talk on friday night at NYWC 2009. they are a bit raw so check em out! Hopefully, thoughts coming later.

 

Friday Evening – Francis Chan

“Abiding in Christ”

john 15

/  v. 4 abide in me and i in you. as a branch cannot survive on its own with the vine, neither can you without me….apart from me you can do nothing!

/  do you really believe that everything is about you abiding in jesus? if thats not there, then you can do absolutely nothing.

/  what would a parent of a sr. high student want from their youth pastor?? what would you strive for your daughter to have??

/ real fruit lasts

/  everyone else thinks your awesome, but i know the truth that you aren’t actually alive. letter to the church of sartas in revelations

/  what would god say about you if I interviewed him about you????

/  john 6.63 “it is the spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all”

/  lives are becoming more scattered. all kinds of distractions.

/   can we slow down for a second and examine our time with him. what would christ say about our time with him? are you really in love with jesus? are you faking it?

/  2 peter 1 “if these qualities are yours and they’re actually increasing, this is ognna keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in your life and ministry with God”

/  when you keep Christ  your center, the above verse will come true

/  “Prone to wonder” God, i feel myself walking away. but the word of god brings us back to the truth and brings us back to the god we fell in love with.

/  supplement your faith with virtue

/  what is your biggest lie tonight?

/   my personal time with god sucks. i need help and i need to re-focus. my time with god needs to be better and more intentional.

/  being moderate in it all the desires and self control

/  help me get back to that reverence and being amazed in your presence? how you doing with your godliness?

/  do you love your students? do i love my students? Do I? Are you growing, creating a family in that youth group??

/  we try to work and plan everything out in ministry, but when you read the bible, movement was super-natural.

/  movements in church’s just don’t happen. all we can do is pray and ask god to see real fruit.

/  too often we work in the flesh and try to do it ourselves. when god’s the only one that can move us?

/  the big red tractor – don’t you feel like you’re just trying to push this thing? trying to get the most gifted speakers, musicians, etc. ? then we read acts. it didn’t seem like they had to do all these things and work so hard. Are we manipulating the spirit and the bible?

/  GOD, I CANNOT CREATE THE WAVE. I NEED YOU TO CREATE THIS WAVE CAUSE YOU’RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN.

/  we didn’t follow cleverly devised plans, for when he redivide honor and glory from the father and he spoke “this is my beloved son”, we were with him on the holy mountain. we have something more sure. the prophetic word that you will do well to pay attention. knowing this 1. no prophecy comes from someone’s own interpretation for no prophecy came from the mouth of man.

/  we have something more sure than an experience. we have his word and his truth in our hands. do we still believe that this is where the power is found. he is where the power is found.

/  steadfast – bearing up under pressure, under weight. the longer you hold it up, the stronger you’re gonna get. “make very effort to become this person who is continually getting stronger or (is steadiest). ”

/  eerytime hardships come, i’d ask god to take it away. why is this happening? why respond like that, i didn’t want my character to grow. i wanted things to be easy and things to be simple. when you become this person, you are unfruitful.

/  but if you go out and rely on God, then you will see fruit. cause you are experiencing the HS and riding the wave of the HS.

/  have you been on your knees with god? have you been frustrated? We count our trials as joy b/c they make us stronger.

/  do i need to spend an hour a day in prayer? YES I DO. NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT PRAYER.

/  talent doesn’t matter. if you weren’t willing to pray, you shouldn’t be on staff. I NEED TO PRAY.



Something is wrong here

Monday, 9 November, 2009
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Sometimes, the church isn’t so much about being the church anymore. I came across this article about a pastor committing suicide. This is a sad sad thing and nothing I like reading about or talking about. But as I was reading it, a few thoughts crossed my mind and I wanna share them with you.

~~ This is just a reminder for pastors of any type to make sure rest is included in their busy week. Each week, we need times of rest and solitude, an opportunity to reconnect to God. The job of a pastor can be extremely busy and almost wreaking havoc in their lives.

~~ Pastor’s should not have to suffer in silence. It is ridiculous to think that a pastor of a church should not struggle with the everyday things that people who aren’t pastor’s struggle with. It is ludicrous for a church to demand perfection out of a pastor and when they do, they keep it inside. Pastors internalize their mistakes as not being “good enough” and have no one to turn to. This creates an unhealthy atmosphere.

~~ When a pastor cannot be honest with his congregation, they lose the authentic community that Christ longs for for the church. This comes right along with not expecting perfection. When the church recognizes that the pastor is human just like the rest of them and they ALLOW him to admit that, he is free from that pressure. He is free from feeling like he has to put up a front to his church and to everyone around him. Can you imagine if every church embraced this idea of FREEING their pastors?

~~ Every pastor needs a support system or team around them to help encourage them or help guide them. We all need people in our lives to be there for us to talk with or work things out with. For myself personally, I work better with groups of people. I think better when I can verbally work out my thoughts with other people, hear other people’s thoughts, etc.

~~ If you are a pastor and you think it is wrong to have thoughts that might contradict the church and your faith in God, it’s okay. You’re a human being, you still have a sin nature. Jesus Christ was the only perfect example for us to follow, not you or I. It’s okay if you are struggling with a great theological truth that you, as a pastor of people, are “suppose” to have an answer to and be able to explain to people.

~~ The writer of this article says you are committing career suicide if you have to seek treatment or ask for time off. Unfortunately, this may be true in some cases. But church governing bodies need to take a closer look at allowing retreats for pastor’s several times a year, if not more. At the Covenant Church, our lead pastor just required those on staff to have two scheduled prayer retreats through the next year and actually is encouraging us to find time for four of these within the next season of ministry. This was a great reminder that I need that time to be given energy, vision, direction, and encouragement.

My heart truly aches for David’s family and his church. My prayer is that his family will find encouragement and healing and that God would be glorified in the coming months. Please pray for David’s family and his church as they process this incident and mourn the loss.


How badly do you want it?

Saturday, 11 July, 2009
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” It”
– Craig Groeschel

So, I began a book series last month for “Crazy Love” by Franchis Chan. However, my intern needed my book for a study so I am without it. I have decided to continue this by reading “it” by Craig Groeschel, pastor of LifeChurch.tv in Edmond, Oklahoma.

I’m gonna post as I read this book. I want to know your thoughts and comments and to discuss with you what Craig says in this book. I must be honest, I was a bit skeptical about this book. For some reason, I anticipated that Craig was going to give us a formula for “it” or a pattern that a church must take. Fortunately, I’ve only read a few chapters but it is obvious that this is not his intent. Made my heart rejoice!

Chapter 1: where did IT come from?

-the good news: if you don’t have it, you can get it.
– the bad news: if you have it, you can lose it.

1. If a church lacks what most people think you need to have church, yet they have it, does this mean that buildings, environments, logos, websites, and so on are not important? Why or why not?
– In my opinion, they are important. But where church’s go wrong is this: when they begin to supercede it. When those things begin to drive the church or the vision, that’s when it needs to cease. It needs to drive those things. Not vice versa.

2. Can you think of an example of a church that had it and then lost it? Describe what happened. Why do you think that ministry lost it?
– I witnessed a church grow and really become a movement in the community. But at one point, it just became motions and the heart seemed to be missing in the middle of it all. I think they may have lost it because they got a little bit too busy with everything else. Keep the main thing, the main thing. Someday, I want to see it. I want to be apart of it. I’m praying and seeking it for Clay Center Covenant.
I’m very excited to see what role God has me playing.

3. If you’ve ever been part of a ministry that had it, you knew it. Describe what it felt like. What were some of the qualities that you experienced and appreciated?
– I don’t know that I’ve ever been part of a ministry that had it. I mean, if you think you have it, do you really have it? Does it ever have a stopping point or a point where you’ve figured it all out? I say no. When you think  you have it, you’ve lost it.

4. What part of your ministry has it? (Your choir, your student ministry, or hospitality ministry might have it.) What factors do you believe contribute to it?
– I don’t know. I need to think about this question more.

Okay so this is what I’m doing. I’m taking the discussion questions at the end of each chapter and just kinda sharing my thoughts. I am praying for God to open my eyes and show me what he has for his Kingdom’s work. I am excited to be a part of it.



Be Crazy Love

Wednesday, 3 June, 2009
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Crazy Love

<So I’ve decided I’m going to start reading “Crazy Love” by Franchis Chan and write my thoughts, ponderings, questions, etc. regarding each chapter and use this as the notebook. I’d love to pose some good questions, insights or whatever regarding this topic of crazy love for God, crazy love for people, etc. I would love for you to grab a copy of the book, read a chapter a week with me, and have some great conversations about this. You can go to crazylovebook.com and get your own copy! Here’s the plan: by saturday night, I am going to have posted the first chapter of crazy love. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it as well.